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Podcast Memories

We closed down the Anatomy in Clay® Learning System podcast some time ago, but the conversations we conducted remain valid and—of course, we’re biased—insightful. Based on viewership to date here are a few highlights from those interviews over the years.


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In June of 2023 we talked to Bobby Kopp, a Health Science Teacher at Milton Hershey School. Among other topics, he talked about a two-day professional development with Anatomy in Clay®.


“I really enjoyed it,” said Kopp. “It was fast-paced, so I wasn't bored at all. It was all like everything was intentional. It was eye opening for sure. It was kind of a mad dash and then at the end it was just like wow ‘look what I did this is great.’”


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We talked to Amanda Meyer in April of 2023. She’s a senior lecturer at the School of Human Sciences at the University of Western Australia in Perth. She’s also one of the anatomists who are promoting wider acceptance of the law of NOMENS. The acronym NOMENS stands for Non-Original Malappropriate Eponymous Nomenclature and it asserts that no phenomenon should be named after its discoverer.


It was when she wrote a paper on the subject and sent it to reviewers that she first encountered pushback, said Meyer. “That's when it got a bit interesting because then we started getting feedback and they're like, ‘this seems really pointed at white males. You shouldn't put NOMENS in the title.’ And there was quite a bit of pushback, but we put our foot down and we said no we want this to be slightly controversial because we want to push our agenda we want to get this discussion out into the open.”


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In November of 2022, we interviewed Meadow Campbell, then an assistant professor at the Center for Anatomical Science and Education at Saint Louis University School of Medicine.  Dr. Campbell was very active on social media (6,700 followers on TikTok) and with her blog, AnatomyLove. She’s also a passionate histologist.

“I describe it as beautiful because it's all pinks and purples and maybe some blues and you know some other colors in there but most of them are pink and purples. And I love purple. I have purple hair—it’s my favorite.”


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The most highly watched episode is our chat with Leslie Samuel of Interactive Biology, a company he founded. You can’t imagine a more enthusiastic supporter of learning human anatomy. (He’s got 400,000+ followers on his YouTube channel, which has 600 total videos.) We were honored to talk with Leslie.

“Literally my first video was like an introduction to the nervous system and what is a neuron and those kinds of things,” Leslie told us. “What I wanted to do in a classroom, I started doing online and that was the genesis of everything that I have online today.” The whole Leslie Samuel world of online anatomy instruction will keep you busy for ages. “It’s amazing to know that one person is appreciating the content, but then when you make it into the millions, it just blows my mind…To know that people are getting value from it amazes me.”


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We also chatted with Dr. Melissa Carroll, an associate professor at the George Washington University School of Medicine and Health Sciences, Department of Anatomy and Cell Biology. The episode was about the organization Black in Anatomy, an organization dedicated to creating a “safe space to network, uplift, support, and amplify Black contributions to anatomical science.”


Dr. Carroll said it was being isolated, during the pandemic of 2020, that helped her develop the idea for the organization. “I recognized that if there was anything that I can do to help colleagues and students that were either entering our field and had a tumultuous path ahead of them that I wanted to ensure that we could make that way just a little bit easier.”


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The podcast episodes mentioned above are all the ones on the podcast playlist on our YouTube channel (32 episodes in all).

But if you want to take a deeper dive, the full catalog of 81 episodes is available (audio only) on Apple Podcasts here.

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